Don Saladino: [00:00:00] It’s simply fascinating to me now. Everybody’s bought this intelligent method of twisting issues and justifying it. Do I feel it’s in Hollywood so much? Sure. Do I feel you’re going to see it in Hollywood extra now? Sure. As a result of loads of these hormones are going to turn into so simply out there to loads of these actors. And I feel it actually comes right down to, you understand, who’s keen to take that dive or not.
Don Saladino: And I’m actually not working with individuals one-on-one anymore, but when I used to be, I assume it might get to some extent the place I’d be coaching individuals who most likely wouldn’t even inform me about it as a result of they’d most likely simply hold it from me. And, you understand, pay attention, I don’t assume anybody in Hollywood—that is going to be sort of a kick to loads of them—however I don’t assume anybody in Hollywood appears so superb that I’d say a human being can’t do this.
Mike Matthews: Hi there, and welcome to a brand new episode of Muscle for Life. I’m your host, Mike Matthews. Thanks for becoming a member of me at this time to listen to from Don Saladino on [00:01:00] easy methods to make vitamin and train work for very busy individuals who have very demanding and, in some circumstances, uncommon lives.
Mike Matthews: For instance, Hollywood stars, whom Don has labored extensively with, but in addition individuals who have restricted time for vitamin and train for different causes, like CEOs, individuals engaged on Wall Road, and others. And as Don has over 25 years of expertise and has greater than 40,000 one-on-one teaching periods underneath his belt, he has rightfully earned a fame because the go-to coach for Hollywood stars, skilled athletes, and busy professionals.
Mike Matthews: On this episode, he’s going to speak about how he approaches vitamin and coaching with these individuals. He’s additionally going to speak about [00:02:00] superstar transformations and the way what you see on the display screen isn’t at all times actuality. He discusses the function of lighting, and sure, he additionally talks about steroids. He shares his opinion on the function that steroids play in at the very least a number of the extra spectacular superstar transformations that we’ve seen through the years.
Mike Matthews: Don talks about how he designs versatile and sustainable health and vitamin plans for his shoppers, and extra. We’ll get going with at this time’s episode shortly, however first, I must inform you in regards to the fish oil complement that I take daily. It’s referred to as Triton, and it’s from my sports activities vitamin firm, Legion.
Mike Matthews: Now, why do I take Triton daily? Effectively, there are two causes. The primary is that fish oil is likely one of the finest sources of omega-3 fatty acids, that are important for lowering the danger of varied varieties of illnesses, sustaining wholesome ranges of irritation, supporting psychological well being and cognitive operate, and extra.
Mike Matthews: The second purpose is that, whereas it’s potential to get sufficient omega-3 fatty acids out of your food regimen alone, it may be troublesome to do in case you don’t frequently eat sufficient of sure meals like olive oil, avocado, nuts, and fatty fish. For this reason analysis reveals that the typical individual’s food regimen gives simply one-tenth of the quantity of omega-3s wanted to protect well being and stop illness.
Mike Matthews: Now, even in case you do eat sufficient of the suitable meals to get sufficient omega-3s in your food regimen to keep up your well being, it’s just about inconceivable to eat sufficient to take pleasure in a number of the advantages that require a few grams per day—like lowering irritation ranges and muscle soreness after train. And people two causes are why I feel fish oil is likely one of the few dietary supplements that principally everybody ought to take into account [00:04:00] taking, no matter their circumstances or targets.
Mike Matthews: And that’s the reason Legion sells a fish oil complement. Once more, it’s referred to as Triton. And it’s not simply any fish oil complement, in fact, as a result of at Legion, we don’t ever accept “ok.” It’s a one hundred pc re-esterified triglyceride fish oil made out of deep-water Peruvian anchovies and sardines caught by fisheries accepted by Pals of the Sea.
Mike Matthews: Now, that’s a mouthful, and it feels like loads of advertising and marketing puffery, nevertheless it’s not. First, re-esterified triglyceride fish oil is the gold commonplace of the completely different kinds available on the market as a result of it’s chemically just like the pure kind—the triglyceride kind—however because of the way it’s created, it’s extra bioavailable.
Mike Matthews: It’s extra proof against oxidation, comprises considerably extra EPA and DHA (the particular omega-3 fatty acids we want to get from fish oil), and [00:05:00] has considerably fewer contaminants.
Mike Matthews: Now, second, concerning the fish that the oil comes from: small, cold-water, non-predatory fish like anchovies and sardines are ideally suited as a result of they are often harvested ethically and sustainably, and so they include the bottom quantities of environmental toxins.
Mike Matthews: Third, Good friend of the Sea is a corporation that audits fisheries yearly to make sure they meet the best requirements of moral, environmental, and sustainable aquaculture.
Mike Matthews: And that’s not all that makes Triton particular. It additionally comprises no synthetic meals dyes, fillers, or different pointless junk. Each bottle is analyzed for purity and efficiency in a state-of-the-art, ISO 17025-accredited lab.
Mike Matthews: Triton is made within the USA with globally sourced substances in NSF-certified and FDA-inspected amenities that adhere to present good manufacturing observe requirements. And all of [00:06:00] that’s the reason Legion has offered over 150,000 bottles of Triton to over 50,000 prospects, who’ve left over 1,000 five-star critiques on Legion’s web site and Amazon.
Mike Matthews: And also you’ve executed loads of that all through your profession. You’ve labored with loads of celebrities who should stay that method. You’ve additionally labored with many busy businesspeople and others. These individuals have distinctive and legit challenges, and it’s not the identical as giving easy, cookie-cutter recommendation to, let’s say, a 25-year-old child who has actually nothing however time.
Mike Matthews: They’ll simply sit within the fitness center for 4 hours a day. These are two very completely different individuals. And you would say, properly, yeah, I imply, the elemental rules apply the identical. However the way you truly apply them efficiently adjustments, proper?
Don Saladino: Yeah, 100%. And also you introduced up the superstar angle.
Don Saladino: I feel what most individuals don’t perceive is that they assume most of those Hollywood individuals have non-public cooks and trainers with them on a regular basis, and that every thing is simply simple. I’ve truly labored—I’ve skilled over 40,000 one-hour periods in my life. That’s how a lot teaching I’ve executed since 1999.
Don Saladino: I used to be coaching just about 40 to 60 one-hour periods every week. I’m recognized for it. I’m referred to as the man who was getting up at 3 a.m. to open my membership at 3:45. I’ve executed extra teaching than—there are only a few individuals who’ve executed extra teaching than I’ve.
Don Saladino: I’ve labored with every kind of individuals—from Wall Road executives to deal with mothers, to skilled athletes, to Hollywood stars.
Don Saladino: And I feel what’s fascinating about celebrities is that their lives are at all times solely altering. For instance, the Wall Road individual wakes up each morning and they’re the identical individual. I get up each morning as Don Saladino. I’m in my dwelling in Lengthy Island. I’ve my two youngsters, my three canine, and my spouse.
Don Saladino: I’ve my enterprise. I journey, however there’s a monotony to my schedule. It’s grounded.
Don Saladino: With loads of these celebrities, they should turn into completely different characters. They should turn into completely different individuals for intervals of time.
Don Saladino: A few of them can’t at all times soar out and in of character. Some are extra what they name methodology actors, the place they keep within the function for a few months or no matter it’s. They’re consistently attempting to include an accent, or they’re doing this in a distinct time zone.
Don Saladino: They should be taught new abilities for the function. You realize, I don’t find out about you, however I didn’t develop up sword preventing. A whole lot of my actors who’re within the Marvel films all of a sudden should do all these stunts they weren’t accustomed to doing.
Don Saladino: Being away from their household and dealing in these completely different environments the place the schedule is continually altering will be powerful. One evening, they is perhaps working in a single day, and the following day, they’re on a day shift.
Don Saladino: Um, I don’t find out about you, however my schedule’s not like that. Positive, I modify time zones. Sure, I’ll be [00:11:00] in 4 or 5 completely different nations within the subsequent few months. No downside. That’s simple for me. However once you take somebody away from their household and put them in an unfamiliar surroundings with a brand new crowd of individuals—
Don Saladino: Underneath the stress of realizing that in the event that they get sick, they’ll’t take a break day—it’s a totally completely different stage. I used to be pondering the opposite day about once I was with Ryan Reynolds on Deadpool. He bought strolling pneumonia at one level. He’s not going to name in and say, “Hey, I’m not coming in.” That’s simply not the way it works.
Don Saladino: This isn’t like somebody working at Goldman Sachs who says, “Oh, I’ve a chilly. I’ll earn a living from home at this time.” It doesn’t work that method in Hollywood. If something, I discover that working with people in Hollywood is commonly tougher than working with skilled athletes.
Don Saladino: Positive, skilled athletes get injured, however so do actors. They’re breaking legs, breaking wrists, attempting to do their very own stunts in sure scenes, getting harm, breaking noses in battle scenes, doing issues most people doesn’t see. And so they’re not skilled for this, proper?
Don Saladino: Tom Brady was skilled to be a quarterback.
Mike Matthews: There’s additionally an [00:12:00] incentive for the proprietor of Tom Brady’s staff to maintain him within the sport for as a few years as potential.
Don Saladino: Yeah, I imply, actors come and go, too. So there’s at all times that strain. Out of the blue, some critics critiques their efficiency. In sports activities, it feels simpler to measure success as a result of it’s clear. If the New York Mets win a sport 5-0 and go on a profitable streak, they’re doing properly. They make the playoffs, or they make the World Sequence. There’s the proof.
Don Saladino: However with a Hollywood actor, you may have somebody with a terrific fame who goes in and delivers an outstanding efficiency, however there is perhaps a nasty director.
Don Saladino: Or there is perhaps dangerous enhancing. Out of the blue, a film that was speculated to be severe comes out trying tacky, or it’s simply not what they anticipated. This occurs on a regular basis. Somebody’s profession can get smashed within the blink of a watch.
Don Saladino: All it takes is one interview or somebody catching you in a nasty temper, and all of a sudden you’re a horrible [00:13:00] individual.
Don Saladino: There’s this strain in Hollywood that I’ve observed. And pay attention, I’ve no purpose to be saying this—I’m fully impartial as a result of I work with everybody, or I’ve labored with everybody. So I feel there’s a respect I’ve for lots of those actors and what they should do.
Don Saladino: And, pay attention, loads of them don’t train. After they should prepare for a film, they’ll come to me and say, “Effectively, they’re telling me I’ve to get stronger and construct muscle.” I’ll ask, “What does that basically appear like? What do you imply?”
Don Saladino: They’ll say, “Effectively, they stated I’ve to placed on 10 kilos.” I’ll reply, “Do it’s important to truly placed on 10 kilos, or do you simply should get stronger and seem to have placed on 10 kilos?”
Don Saladino: As a result of these are very various things in my guide. Or they’ll look very completely different in my guide. Let’s go on Google, pull up some footage, and determine the physique you’re attempting to create.
Don Saladino: Over my 25-plus years of working with these individuals, it’s been fascinating what number of completely different initiatives I’ve needed to analyze. Typically, it’s so simple as saying, “Nope. You’re nice, you’ve bought two months.” [00:14:00] You’re precisely the place they need you to be. Let’s simply keep wholesome, keep resilient, and hold your power excessive. Let’s not push you to the purpose the place you go into taking pictures this function feeling like rubbish or fully exhausted.
Don Saladino: Let’s be sure to preserve excessive power ranges. We don’t should overdo it, proper? It’s at all times a singular puzzle relying on what you’re serving to to create.
Mike Matthews: Once you’re working with celebrities, Wall Road guys, or anybody with sophisticated schedules, they’re typically restricted in how a lot time they’ll dedicate to coaching.
Mike Matthews: In addition they don’t essentially have quick access to excellent vitamin. Virtually talking, in case you get right down to the tactical stage, how do you make that work for these individuals? Once you’re creating their coaching and vitamin plans, what are a number of the stuff you’re contemplating? How do you lay it out for somebody who lives that sort of life?
Don Saladino: Yeah, I imply, you’re speaking about creating, proper? You’ve bought to get inventive. It doesn’t at all times imply coming in along with your “A-plan.” Truthfully, I don’t even know what my “A-plan” is as a result of what I do for myself daily is simply the approach to life I stay one year a 12 months.
Don Saladino: A lot of the actors or individuals I’ve labored with don’t strategy it the best way I do. So, I feel it’s about assembly them the place they’re—understanding their total well being, power ranges, and basic items like sleep high quality, digestion, and stress.
Don Saladino: As a coach, you’re sort of like a chef. When a chef is making ready a dish, they’ll strive various things, style as they go, and regulate to make it work. Teaching is comparable. When you’re coach, you have a look at the person, their way of life, coaching historical past, and the time they’ve out there.
Don Saladino: Then you definately take into account their persona. Are they somebody who follows guidelines simply, or are they somebody who struggles with construction? You’re taking all of that into consideration, after which you determine one of the best strategy for that individual.
Don Saladino: If I took my private plan and handed it to each one who needed to get ripped or in form, I don’t assume I’d be very profitable. Most individuals would have a look at it and say, “Yeah, no.”
Mike Matthews: They don’t want a coach for that—they may simply purchase a PDF on-line.
Don Saladino: Precisely. And who is aware of if that even works? The actual magic comes from understanding the individual and tailoring the strategy to their wants.
Don Saladino: Yeah. And who is aware of if that even works? I feel the magic actually comes right down to understanding: what are you attempting to create? For instance, when I’ve to prepare for a Muscle & Health cowl—which I’ve been on 3 times since 2018—I don’t get loads of time to arrange. 4, perhaps 5 weeks tops.
Don Saladino: Throughout these 4 to 5 weeks, there’s no variability. Actually, there are not any cheat meals, not a sip of alcohol—not that I actually drink anyway. Nevertheless it’s strict macros, coaching, and focus.
Don Saladino: Typically, once I work with individuals, relying on their persona, I’ll say, “Alright, we’re not far off. Preserve that cheat meal you want each Saturday evening.” They’ll reply, “However, however, however…” And I’ll say, “No, severely. We’ll have a look at you about 4 to 6 weeks out, and if we have to tighten issues up, we’ll. Proper now, the manufacturing firm says you’re proper the place you should be. Let’s deal with maintaining your sanity.”
Don Saladino: Except you’re making ready for one thing excessive—like {a magazine} cowl—you don’t must go all-in on a regular basis. Let’s will let you achieve success. It’s like these New Yr’s resolutions everyone seems to be diving into proper now.
Don Saladino: They wish to go all in with out giving themselves any reduction. And, statistically, in a couple of weeks, loads of them gained’t be capable to sustain. So, yeah, this course of is so individualized. It’s so private.
Don Saladino: I promote packages on-line. I host challenges on my web site. However the purpose I do challenges is that I can coach a big group of individuals, speak to them, and say, “We have to regulate X, Y, and Z.” I assist them tweak their vitamin. It’s very hardly ever a one-size-fits-all resolution.
Mike Matthews: Are you able to [00:18:00] give some examples? I imply, it doesn’t should be celebrities, however perhaps just some completely different examples of approaches you are taking with individuals—on each the coaching and vitamin sides. Like, “Right here’s a sort of individual I work with, and right here’s how we are likely to strategy their plan,” versus one other kind of individual.
Don Saladino: Proper. I’ll have to make use of names as a result of most individuals gained’t know Joe Schmo from down on Bowery, proper? So, Ryan Reynolds is a good instance.
Don Saladino: He’s sort of a robotic. We’ve been coaching collectively for 16 years. When it’s time for him to get in form, we assess him, have a look at how his physique is feeling, and determine what we will assign to him that may assist him achieve success.
Don Saladino: The purpose is for him to take pleasure in coaching and really feel good when he leaves. It’s about asking, “What are we attempting to create? Do we have to simply tighten up? Do we have to develop his physique extra? Does he must get greater, smaller, or leaner? What precisely are we attempting to realize?”
Don Saladino: With somebody like Ryan, it’s simple as a result of he’s disciplined and devoted. We simply put him on cruise management, and he runs with it.
Don Saladino: Alternatively, I’ve labored with individuals the place the problem is the alternative. Typically, I’ve to say, “Oh my God, we truly must placed on physique fats.”
Don Saladino: For instance, somebody may come to me and say, “The function I’m coaching for requires me to look much less ripped.” I’ll inform them, “You’re method too lean proper now. This isn’t plausible in any respect.” They’ll reply, “I do know. This isn’t the physique of somebody from the Nineteen Twenties.” And I’ll agree, “Precisely. This doesn’t make sense.”
Don Saladino: So, the query turns into, how can we do that whereas maintaining you wholesome? How can we do that whereas nonetheless permitting you to coach and transfer the best way you like to? So, let’s hold coaching, however how can we make changes so we’re not simply consuming McDonald’s daily and destroying your well being? I nonetheless need us to get fiber and nutrient-dense meals, however we’ll must offset energy in sure methods.
Don Saladino: That’s ok—drive issues up. And, you understand what? Positive, you need a little bit ice cream each evening? I’ve bought no downside with that. Go to an natural ice cream retailer to keep away from the chemical compounds. The extra fats and pure sugar might help you get a little bit softer and retain extra water.
Don Saladino: However meals high quality is at all times my precedence. I wish to hold it as excessive as potential.
Mike Matthews: Sorry to interject, however this can be a query I’ve gotten so much through the years, often from guys however typically from ladies as properly. They battle to achieve weight whereas consuming largely nutritious meals. They don’t wish to drink a gallon of milk a day or eat quick meals.
Mike Matthews: Are there sure go-to meals you advocate for getting energy in a nutritious method?
Don Saladino: Completely. First, gaining weight is extremely easy, however individuals are likely to overcomplicate it. When somebody enters a bulking section, they typically assume it’s a free go to eat no matter they need.
Don Saladino: Now, monitoring vitamin is usually a big assist, nevertheless it’s not for everybody. Monitoring removes the guesswork. When you’re logging your meals and I see that you just’ve eaten 3,200 energy at this time, damaged down into protein, carbs, and fat, I can regulate that.
Don Saladino: For somebody who eats intuitively, it’s more durable. They may say, “I eat wholesome—rooster, broccoli, candy potatoes, avocado, eggs, fruits, and berries.” However I don’t know in the event that they’re consuming 1,500 energy or 3,000 energy. That’s a totally completely different story.
Don Saladino: For me, it’s simply math. Let’s say somebody’s purpose is 200 grams of protein, 200 grams of carbs, and 100 grams of fats. That provides as much as 2,500 energy:
- 200 grams of protein = 800 energy (4 energy per gram)
- 200 grams of carbs = 800 energy (4 energy per gram)
- 100 grams of fats = 900 energy (9 energy per gram)
Don Saladino: If somebody is consuming 2,500 energy a day and so they eat 1,000 energy of their first meal, they may really feel so full for the following 5 hours that they don’t eat once more. That window to get extra energy in shrinks, making it more durable to hit their purpose.
Don Saladino: Now, 2,500 energy is manageable in my guide. But when somebody involves me needing 4,000 energy, that will get so much trickier.
Mike Matthews: That’s true, and it may be even more durable for somebody smaller. Take, for instance, a petite girl who weighs 100 kilos.
Don Saladino: I truly had a girl in my problem neighborhood who began with me consuming 1,400 energy a day. Over a few 12 months, perhaps a 12 months and a half, we labored her as much as 3,200 energy. She was extremely lively, and through that point, she misplaced over 30 kilos.
Don Saladino: We couldn’t put her in any additional deficit, so we rebuilt her metabolism. We improved her power ranges, bought her shifting extra, elevated her protein consumption, and certain added muscle. All these good issues got here collectively.
Don Saladino: Proper. So, we couldn’t put her in any extra of a deficit. Over time, we constructed her metabolism, improved her power ranges, bought her shifting extra, stored her protein consumption excessive, most likely added some muscle, and all these good issues occurred.
Don Saladino: However let’s return to these macros. For anybody listening, take into consideration this: 200 grams of protein, 200 grams of carbs, and 100 grams of fats. To me, that’s basic math.
Don Saladino: Now, what number of instances a day do you wish to eat? When you’re consuming 5 instances a day, [00:24:00] for 200 grams of protein, what number of grams per meal is that? Forty. Forty grams per meal instances 5 equals 200 grams. For carbs, it’s additionally 40 grams per meal. For fats, with 100 grams divided by 5 meals, that’s 20 grams per meal.
Don Saladino: So, in case you’re consuming 5 instances a day and have 40 grams of protein, 40 grams of carbs, and 20 grams of fats per meal, you’ll hit your 2,500 energy: 200 grams of protein, 200 grams of carbs, and 100 grams of fats. Simple arithmetic. And in case you’re off by a couple of grams, do I care? No.
Don Saladino: Now, if somebody desires to eat 4 instances a day, the mathematics adjustments. The protein would go to 50 grams per meal, the carbs to 50 grams, and the fats to 25 grams per meal. It’s simply math.
Don Saladino: The error individuals make when attempting to achieve or drop pounds is approaching it like, “Oh, I’m gaining weight, so I’ll simply eat so much.” A younger child wakes up at 8 or 9 within the morning and thinks, “I’ll eat 5 entire eggs with bacon, a ribeye steak, and butter.”
Don Saladino: Subsequent factor you understand, they’ve consumed so many energy in a single meal that they’re full for the following 5 or 6 hours and may’t eat once more. They’ve eradicated all these alternatives to eat extra vitamin all through the day.
Don Saladino: For me, consuming isn’t nearly macronutrients. It’s in regards to the vitamin you’re getting—micronutrients. For instance, white rice is a good carbohydrate, but when that’s all you’re consuming, it lacks dietary worth. There’s no fiber, no nutritional vitamins, no minerals.
Don Saladino: So, whereas I’d eat white rice, I additionally embody different carb sources all through the day, like candy potatoes, berries, oats, and extra. I must hold my carbs excessive, and I be certain that they arrive from quite a lot of sources.
Don Saladino: For anybody listening who’s attempting to achieve or drop pounds, monitoring will be very useful. It’s not crucial for everybody, nevertheless it eliminates a lot guesswork.
Don Saladino: For instance, if somebody’s consuming solely 15 grams of fiber a day, I’ll inform them, “That’s simply not sufficient. You might want to be nearer to 25 grams.” Over a couple of weeks, they’ll say, “Oh my God, I really feel fuller, I’m not craving junk at evening, and I’m beginning to drop pounds.”
Don Saladino: Humorous how that works, proper? Once you enhance your vitamin, good issues occur.
Mike Matthews: And so far as particular person meals, are there sure ones you wish to at the very least check out with shoppers?
Mike Matthews: And that might apply to dropping pounds or gaining weight. For instance, when dropping pounds, the extra nutritious, fiber-containing meals you may eat, the higher—they hold you full. A tip I bought from Menno Henselmans that I’ve handed alongside is about zucchini soup.
Mike Matthews: He talked about in an interview that zucchini soup will be very filling. You’ll be able to eat loads of it, and for some purpose, zucchini specifically appears to work properly for satiety. Not that there’s something magical about zucchini, however that was simply one thing he identified.
Don Saladino: That’s fascinating—actually fascinating. I don’t know Menno personally, however I’ve heard his identify, and I do know he’s extremely revered and good.
Don Saladino: Soup, for me, is hard. It’s more durable to trace and keep on high of every thing you’re placing in your physique. Zucchini is nice; it’s sort of a “free” meals—you may eat loads of it with out worrying an excessive amount of.
Don Saladino: However that doesn’t imply somebody can stroll right into a restaurant, see zucchini soup on the menu, and order it with out contemplating what’s in it. You don’t know if it’s loaded with sugar, salt, or cream. Positive, it would style nice, however it’s important to watch out.
Don Saladino: If somebody is attempting to get leaner, there are specific meals I lean towards. For instance, if I’m going right into a calorie deficit, I’d skip issues like jasmine rice and focus extra on candy potatoes.
Don Saladino: On the flip facet, if I’m in a bulking section, I’d embody extra calorie-dense choices. For instance, a fibrous sprouted bagel will be nice for pumping up carbs. Brown rice is a bit more durable to eat in giant portions, however white rice is way simpler to eat once you want extra carbohydrates.
Don Saladino: Candy potatoes, for instance, aren’t very calorie-dense. Eight ounces of candy potato may offer you round 50 grams of carbs. Evaluate that to an identical quantity of white rice, and also you’re getting considerably extra carbohydrates.
Don Saladino: For bulking, I even have a couple of secret weapons. Dates, as an illustration, are superb—excessive in fiber and pure sugar. 5 dates offer you round 100 grams of carbohydrates, and so they’re extremely simple to eat. Round exercises, incorporating meals like dates could make hitting your macros a lot simpler.
Don Saladino: After I’m bulking, there’s extra flexibility with some of these meals. However when it’s time to get “cowl prepared,” issues tighten up. For instance, I’m about 215 kilos now, however once I’m on a canopy shoot, I’ll often be round 207. That’s not an enormous distinction, however by tightening up the varieties of meals I eat, I can create a stage of “dryness” in my physique with out having to dehydrate.
Don Saladino: For my final 4 shoots—three with Muscle & Health and one with Males’s Well being—I didn’t dehydrate in any respect. I went in with a glance that’s attainable and sustainable.
Don Saladino: I’ve been a drug-free athlete my complete life—not that it makes me higher or worse than anybody else. It’s simply my selection. I’ve been doing common blood work for most likely 30 years. I began going to Dr.Gary Wadler, who was concerned within the congressional hearings for the entire steroid scandal in baseball—that’s how way back I began doing blood work. I used to be going to him at 16 or 17 years previous, sitting and speaking about my blood work, lengthy earlier than individuals had been even discussing it.
Don Saladino: After I began coaching, was I studying so much? Not likely, however sort of. Because the years went on and this grew to become extra of an accepted observe, and other people began understanding what optimization was, that’s when individuals started exploring the chances.
Don Saladino: However why would I take one thing if I wasn’t poor in a sure space? If my blood work is in a very good place—which I credit score to the final 30 years of the best way I stay—why would I add one thing to it? I’ll be 48 in April, and my blood work has at all times been stable.
Don Saladino: Positive, may I get greater? Might I get stronger? Most likely. However I don’t know the long-term ramifications of taking these issues. I don’t know the way it might have an effect on my ageing course of or how my physique may reply sooner or later.
Don Saladino: Possibly for some individuals, we’re seeing advantages. Take a look at Stallone—he’s virtually 80 years previous, nonetheless working, nonetheless doing loopy stuff. Applause to him. However there are others who aren’t as lucky or don’t have the identical sources.
Don Saladino: I could have gone a little bit off-topic there, however the level is, there’s so much to consider.
Don Saladino: I want extra individuals took possession of this. When you’re taking one thing, overtly admit it. Lately, we’re listening to bodybuilders and others on the web discuss it extra overtly, and I feel that’s factor. It ought to be disclosed. When you’ve taken one thing, simply admit it.
Don Saladino: That honesty and openness are essential, particularly for the youthful youngsters who’re watching.
Mike Matthews: And don’t name it TRT if it’s a steroid dose. When you’re working your testosterone at 5,000 ng/dL, let’s be trustworthy—that’s not TRT.
Don Saladino: Precisely. My testosterone has improved considerably during the last three years. My complete testosterone—this isn’t free—went from about 680 to 930. And persons are like, “Oh, you’re on one thing.” No, I’m not.
Don Saladino: And even when I used to be, it might be larger than that. Let’s be actual—it wouldn’t even be well worth the injection if that’s all it was.
Don Saladino: Folks simply don’t know what they’re speaking about. They ask, “How’d you do this?” Effectively, I finished commuting three hours a day into the town. I finished waking up at 3 a.m. and began waking up at 5:50 a.m.
Don Saladino: You assume which may have one thing to do with it? It’s not simply in regards to the chilly plunges or the sauna. Positive, I do these issues, however take into consideration what I simply stated—I improved my sleep by two hours.
Mike Matthews: So bedtime stayed the identical; you’re simply getting extra sleep now.
Don Saladino: Precisely. I’m getting extra sleep.
Don Saladino: I’ve at all times been somebody who doesn’t go to mattress previous 9. Again then, I’d go to mattress at 9 and get up between three and 4 a.m. Now, I’m waking up at 5:50. You don’t assume that additional sleep makes a distinction?
Don Saladino: Plus, eliminating the stress of proudly owning gyms in New York Metropolis has been big for my high quality of life. I ran gyms within the metropolis for 15 years. My overhead was $2 million a 12 months simply to interrupt even, and I had two places plus a digital firm.
Don Saladino: Once you eradicate all of that stress, your high quality of life improves, and also you simply turn into happier. It’s a distinct section of my life, and yeah, issues are going to enhance. They don’t at all times should worsen as you age. However I do assume there must be much more schooling on the market in relation to these items.
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Mike Matthews: Whereas we’re on the subject, let’s discuss Hollywood. It’s at all times a supply of controversy. Lots of people are fast accountable steroids each time somebody appears actually good for a film. “Oh, yeah, they’re most likely on one thing.” In lots of circumstances, most likely not, and in some circumstances, perhaps. What are your ideas? Not asking you to call anybody, in fact, however you’ve seen loads of this behind the scenes.
Don Saladino: Completely, I can discuss this. I’d say there’s most likely just one different coach I do know who has labored with extra individuals in Hollywood than I’ve, and that’s Gunner Peterson. Gunner’s good friend of mine, and we joke about it. I say, “Gunner, it’s solely since you’re older than me!”
Don Saladino: He’s 60 and appears like he’s 40—one of many nicest guys. He’s one in every of my favorites.
Don Saladino: Pay attention, I don’t assume anybody in Hollywood appears so superb that I’d say a human being can’t obtain that naturally.
Mike Matthews: Some would argue it’s in regards to the time. They’d say, “Alright, however they solely have two months to achieve all that muscle.”
Don Saladino: Truthful level, completely truthful. However let me offer you an instance. I labored with Hugh Jackman 18 years in the past, when he transitioned from The Boy from Oz to Wolverine in Australia.
Don Saladino: I’m not working with him now—he has a terrific coach in Texas—however again then, I knew precisely what he was consuming, the dietary supplements he was taking, and the way we had been coaching.
Don Saladino: He was an intense man, however let’s be trustworthy—he’s an actor. You convey him right into a hardcore fitness center like Bev Francis’s Powerhouse Fitness center, and I may present you 200 guys twice as massive and twice as sturdy as he was. However as a result of it’s Hollywood, with the lights, the cameras, and the large display screen, individuals assume it’s unattainable.
Don Saladino: Lately, there was this man—Alan Ritchson, I feel, the man from Jack Reacher. He was doing an interview and stated one thing like, “I skilled so laborious, I depleted all my testosterone in eight months.” That was his justification for taking exogenous testosterone.
Mike Matthews: Proper, and that was his excuse for utilizing it.
Don Saladino: Precisely! I rolled my eyes at that. Simply be trustworthy—say you needed to be large, so that you took it. Considered one of my closest mates, a big-time powerlifter, had youngsters come as much as him and ask, “How’d you get so massive?” He straight-up instructed them, “Medicine.”
Don Saladino: I misplaced it—it was so humorous. However then we instructed the children, “Don’t do medicine. It’s not wholesome.” And my good friend agreed. He’s like, “Yeah, it’s not wholesome, however if you wish to carry ungodly quantities of weight and be a world-record holder, there are specific stuff you’ll must do.”
Don Saladino: It’s apparent once you have a look at the world’s strongest males. Their measurement and power don’t occur naturally—it’s simply actuality. However in Hollywood, I want extra individuals took possession.
Don Saladino: I’ve had pure actors come to me, pissed off, saying, “So-and-so confirmed up smaller than me, and two months later, he’s twice my measurement!” I inform them, “Keep in your lane. You don’t must appear like that in your function. Keep in mind, there’s a price to doing enterprise. That’s the choice you’ve made.”
Don Saladino: I can’t rely how a lot enterprise I’ve misplaced as a result of I don’t take care of that stuff. Main athletes and Hollywood stars have come to me with questions on medicine, and I inform them, “I’m not the man for that.”
Mike Matthews: Proper, since you’ve determined to not get into that world.
Don Saladino: Precisely. I’ve made a acutely aware selection. Why would I educate myself on one thing I’m not going to make use of? I at all times inform them, “When you’re contemplating it, go communicate to a certified doctor, not a coach, irrespective of how good they assume they’re.”
Don Saladino: Work with a medical skilled who can monitor your bloodwork, assess your well being, and information you correctly. 9 out of ten instances, they’d stroll out and by no means come again.
Don Saladino: It was a call I made—not as a result of I feel I’m higher than anybody, however as a result of I needed to deal with one thing else. I put my power into understanding easy methods to manipulate physique composition, enhance efficiency, and improve aesthetics. That’s what I’m enthusiastic about, and I feel that’s why I’ve constructed the fame I’ve in Hollywood.
Mike Matthews: Do you assume there’s a common notion on the market that steroids are accountable for lots of Hollywood transformations?
Would you say that you just agree or disagree with that assertion primarily based in your expertise?
Don Saladino: I feel it’s on the market so much. I feel it’s, I feel it’s most likely on the market much more now or some kind of… After I say manipulation, [00:45:00] I imply, yeah, like, oh, properly, your testosterone’s at 300. It’s a little bit low. I buried my finest good friend in 2010.
Don Saladino: He was my head coach and, um, he didn’t have a household. We needed to declare rights to his physique. Um, in any other case it goes to one thing referred to as Potter’s Subject in New York. So they really needed to maintain his physique for 2 weeks. I needed to go right down to metropolis corridor. I needed to declare his physique. I, they lastly gave me rights to his physique.
Don Saladino: I needed to determine him two weeks after he died, which is likely one of the hardest issues I’ve ever needed to do. And I needed to bury him. And once we did this, I had an post-mortem executed as a result of I needed to know—he’s 43. Proper. So 2000, you understand, 2010, that’s 14, 15 years in the past for me. I’m—shit—I’m 33. Ten years older than me, roughly.
Don Saladino: And, um, you understand, his T ranges had been north of 3000. And I simply noticed… I simply noticed this horrible, you understand, downward spiral he went on, and this may piss lots of people off as a result of the individuals taking it don’t assume they’re all, properly, you didn’t have [00:46:00] anybody monitoring it. Bullshit. He did have individuals monitoring it.
Don Saladino: He knew what he was doing. He simply, it bought to some extent the place he grew to become hooked on this sense that he simply stored taking increasingly and extra and he couldn’t get off of it. Then when he bought off it, he felt worse. So he took extra. And guess what? That’s what a drug addict does. Proper. So even with one thing like testosterone, which most individuals say, properly, it’s not, it’s cute.
Don Saladino: It’s not a, it’s not a steroid. It’s not. Yeah, however it may be abused and it may be abused. I’m sorry.
Mike Matthews: I imply, it, it, it factually is a steroid hormone as properly. Like, uh, in keeping with the dictionary, I imply, I don’t know.
Don Saladino: In accordance with the dictionary. Sure. However like, I imply, lots of people will begin categorizing issues now in a different way.
Don Saladino: Like, properly, it’s not Tren and it’s not a Dianabol. However in fact that these are coping mechanisms. Precisely. Precisely. And I’m glad you, I’m glad you gave that sort of side-eye look there as a result of, um, typically if I’ve a dialog with somebody, they’re like, they’ll come at you, assault you. Simply the opposite day, I heard somebody [00:47:00] on the web saying, properly, is it, is it creatine a managed substance now?
Don Saladino: Isn’t that such as you assume they had been attempting to place creatine on the extent of taking a hormone? And I’m like, what are you speaking about? Like creatine’s in meat. How is that the identical?
Mike Matthews: Yeah, I don’t wish to eat like 4 steaks a day. So I take a gram of creatine monohydrate or take a, I take a little bit scooper of creatine monohydrate.
Don Saladino: Yeah. So it’s simply, it’s fascinating to me now. Everybody’s bought this intelligent method of twisting issues and, and justifying it. Do I feel it’s in Hollywood so much? Sure. Do I feel you’re going to see it in Hollywood extra now? Sure, as a result of loads of these hormones are going to turn into so simply out there. To loads of these actors, and I feel it actually comes right down to, you understand, who’s keen to take that dive or not.
Don Saladino: And, uh, it’s going—I imply, I’m actually not working with individuals one-on-one anymore, but when I used to be, I assume it might get to some extent the place I might be coaching individuals, most likely wouldn’t even find out about it as a result of they might most likely simply hold it from me. And, you understand, they might have another man for that and, you understand, that’s it. [00:48:00]
Don Saladino: Yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s—that’s this. These are the issues which might be occurring now, however to reply your query, I feel it’s seen much more than we predict.
Mike Matthews: Fascinating. And for individuals listening, uh, questioning why that’s, it’s just because these medicine work actually, very well. So it’s been proven in analysis, for instance, that, uh, merely taking steroids—I’m pondering of 1 research specifically—can produce extra.
Mike Matthews: And this was simply testosterone. And it wasn’t essentially a—it was tremendous physiological, nevertheless it wasn’t essentially the large bodybuilder dose. So simply taking testosterone can produce extra muscle progress in an untrained particular person, uh, over the course of, I wish to say the research was 10 to 12 weeks, than coaching and consuming properly.
Mike Matthews: So simply take into consideration that.
Don Saladino: Yeah. Okay. In order that, which may assist that, which may assist loads of these actors out, however—
Mike Matthews: No, I’m not endorsing it. I imply, such as you, uh, I’m going to remain drug-free so long as I can. If my testosterone, if I’m 75 years previous and it’s 200 NGDL, I’ve executed every thing I can. My high quality of life sucks.
Mike Matthews: My dick doesn’t work, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah, I’m, I’m, I’m getting on [00:49:00] TRT.
Don Saladino: I at all times surprise, I at all times surprise by, by, by then, proper? Like, let’s say somebody—I feel somebody requested me this lately, such as you’re 80. And, you understand, all of a sudden issues have developed a lot. I imply, that’s 32, 33 years from now, proper? It’s, you understand, take into consideration what we’re going to have entry to.
Don Saladino: Take into consideration 32, 33 years in the past to 32, 33 years from now. It’s like, who is aware of what we now have entry to by then, however like, are you taking it? And I’m like, I don’t know. It’s like, I don’t know if that by then I’m like, fuck it. I’m simply, you understand, I’ve gone this lengthy already and I’m simply going to show my head and experience it out.
Mike Matthews: I imply, theoretically although, proper, in case your high quality of life—as a result of as you most likely know, there are true scientific signs the place you would completely make argument that as a person residing with clinically low testosterone is unhealthy. And so in case you’ve executed every thing you may to convey that up naturally, and that’s it—it’s simply—
Mike Matthews: You realize, your physique is previous and worn out, and it’s [00:50:00] residing like that or exogenous. You most likely may make only a easy web advantages argument for the exogenous.
Don Saladino: Completely, completely, completely, um, one hundred pc. A terrific buddy of mine that, um, was blown up in Afghanistan. He had like over 30 surgical procedures. Nostril was blown off his head. Jaw bolts went by his face. Arm was blown off, reattached, and it bought to the purpose the place he lastly bought on one thing, and he bought throughout an unbelievable hurdle, and he’s residing an unbelievable life. His physique composition is in place. His power stage is excessive, and he’s glad. And I’m like, “Oh my God, go, go, go.”
Don Saladino: Um, I’ve had shoppers in right here that I’ve labored with. I’ve had individuals I’ve labored with which might be 872 kilos. I’ve had a man who began with me right here—a good friend—who was 5 and 1 / 4, and he truly by no means needed to take something. He’s so scared about even taking like Manjaro or a kind of, um, you understand, a kind of peptides.
Don Saladino: Yeah, a kind of GLP-1s. So, um, you understand, I feel, once more, it’s to every his personal. I feel sure persons are actually nervous in regards to the long-term results, however like I stated, [00:51:00] God, 30 years from now, we’re going to know so much.
Mike Matthews: Completely. You talked about earlier—coming again to Hollywood—I don’t wish to belabor it, nevertheless it’s simply one thing you talked about that I made a psychological word to return again to. It’s how massive of a distinction lighting and digicam could make.
Mike Matthews: And I feel the rationale I wish to convey it up is only for individuals listening, to ensure that in the event that they’re going to match themselves to issues, they at the very least perceive what they’re seeing and what they’re evaluating themselves to.
Don Saladino: It’s unbelievable what they’ll do with lighting and digicam angles.
Don Saladino: And, oh my God, it’s unbelievable. And it’s not to remove the form that loads of these actors should get into—they work laborious—and so they, um, and once more, keep in mind, this isn’t their craft. This isn’t like, they’re not a bodybuilder, you understand, they’re not an expert athlete that’s been doing this most of their life.
Don Saladino: And they also know loads of instances they arrive in right here, they should be taught these abilities, you understand, to have the ability to get the sort of form, proper? You [00:52:00] flip to Sebastian Stan, and he’s bought to resistance prepare for Avengers, and so they’re like, “However no, Seb, you’ve bought to do three hours of sword battle coaching a day.”And he’s like, what, like, what are you speaking about? These are issues individuals don’t take into consideration. That’s stress, and that’s exercise, and that is going to tire them out. Take into consideration all this that’s on their plate now. So yeah, it’s, um, it truly is my, um, my respect for them over, you understand, the final 20—I’ve been within the enterprise over 25 years.
Don Saladino: I feel I took my first one-on-one about 20 years in the past. Um, it’s extraordinary what they should do in such little time.
Mike Matthews: And by way of what you see on the display screen, only for, for individuals who don’t know, what’s that distinction between, okay, you’re there in individual whereas they’re taking pictures and never to remove from something that they’ve executed.
Mike Matthews: As you stated, they’ve labored laborious. They’ve gotten into nice form, however then you definitely see the ultimate manufacturing on TV, and what, what’s that Delta, so to talk, by way of what you’re seeing, the place you’re like, dude, that man appears 15 [00:53:00] kilos greater than, you understand what I imply?
Don Saladino: What number of instances have we gotten in mirrors in a dressing room?
Don Saladino: And we’re like, Oh my God, I don’t appear like that. Proper? Like that is, that is it. Or it’s like, Oh my God, like that is one of the best mirror or all of a sudden. You realize, I’m like, Oh my God, I look horrible. Like there’s, there’s lighting. I can carry these shades up proper now and bleach these lights out. If I take my shirt off, I’m not going to look anyplace as outlined.
Don Saladino: And if I drop the shades, dip the lighting, get some lighting coming in at a distinct angle, do a few pushups, get a pump. Like I’m going to look so much completely different. I’m going to, I can do a earlier than and after and trick everybody and say, that is 12 weeks later, they’re going to be like, what? Like, that is—so take into consideration what Hollywood can do.
Don Saladino: I can do this in a couple of minutes.
Mike Matthews: I, I did that after, so I—it simply jogs my memory the place I—I didn’t do a canopy. Uh, it was simply getting lean for some advertising and marketing and stuff, and, and so I, I used to be taking a nap exterior. So it was within the solar, totally, you understand, in order that’s simply daylight, bla, in Florida. Coming down on me, any person took an image of me laying down, and so I’m [00:54:00] so I’m sleeping.
Mike Matthews: So no muscle stress, proper? After which just some days later, it was the picture shoot, and I used to be most likely round 6 or 7%. So fairly lean and I’ve, I’ve a little bit of measurement, proper? So fairly vascular or no matter. And folks had a tough time believing that these had been just some days aside due to how shockingly completely different it seemed.
Don Saladino: God, you may manipulate a lot. I imply, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s fascinating, nevertheless it’s nonetheless—I by no means needed to remove from the work that’s being put in. I imply, on the finish of the day, even once I go to, uh, I’ve been to most likely 15 to twenty Mr. Olympia competitions. I wish to be very clear right here. Simply because somebody’s on a performance-enhancing substance doesn’t imply they’re going to appear like that, proper? Or it doesn’t imply they’re going to have the ability to carry out like somebody within the NFL. Like, it takes a particular athlete, a particular particular person to have the ability to create, develop the ability units that these individuals have developed, whether or not it’s standing on stage and posing or whether or not it’s, you understand, being within the NFL, completely different ability units.
Don Saladino: However man, the quantity of labor, the quantity of effort, the self-discipline that, um, [00:55:00] I feel loads of these individuals should put in to get there, particularly with bodybuilders. I’m fascinated with, I’ll simply go, and also you’ll go to the Olympia, and also you’ll have a look at, you understand, the traditional physique. Now, it’s most likely one of many largest classes.
Don Saladino: So that you’ll have a look at 100 guys within the again competing. You realize, what are they taking? Prime 5? It’s like, Oh my God. And I can assure most individuals are going to have the ability to go have a look at the winner, Chris Bumstead this 12 months. So, you understand, the man who completed twentieth or twenty fifth, and in the event that they have a look at him facet by facet and so they don’t know what they’re taking a look at, they’re going to be like, Uh, uh, who gained?
Don Saladino: Like, it’s, it’s, however the quantity, even when somebody finishes twentieth, it’s like the quantity of self-discipline, the quantity of effort, and the quantity of labor—for me, that’s what I respect essentially the most.
Mike Matthews: Completely. You talked about that with a few of these covers that you just did lately, you didn’t hassle chopping water, and I needed to return again to that as a result of that is also simply the subject of easy methods to look a sure method is one thing that has simply come up through the years the place, so usually, the best way I’ve acquired it’s individuals [00:56:00] asking about—often it’s round some type of occasion, proper?So perhaps it’s a marriage or it’s a man who desires to look significantly good on the seashore for some purpose or no matter. Uh, and, and that results in then, are there any methods other than, so there’s one faculty, which is simply, you simply bought to get actually lean, overlook about every thing else, simply hold dropping fats.
Mike Matthews: And that’s one strategy. After which there’s one other strategy of getting lean plus different issues like chopping water, lowering carbs, or lowering then growing. What are your ideas on this stuff? And I’m positive you’ve executed loads of this stuff. So that you’re talking firsthand as properly.
Don Saladino: Yeah, I feel it is dependent upon the start line, proper?
Don Saladino: I feel somebody like me, who’s going to stroll round actually lean all 12 months lengthy, and I by no means go in any large bulking phases. I imply, I’m like 6 foot 1. I most likely, in a 12 months, will weigh anyplace between like 207 to as a lot as perhaps 219. And that’s—I don’t even assume that’s a real 219 to 220. That’s most likely after a nasty weekend, retaining some water.
Don Saladino: So I don’t assume so. That feels like that’s a giant fluctuation, nevertheless it actually isn’t. I imply, [00:57:00] I can get up one morning and be 5 kilos lighter. It’s simply, you understand, and you understand that.
Mike Matthews: Yeah. Or, or heavier. You’ll be able to simply eat a bunch of carbs and a bunch of salt and weigh 5 extra kilos.
Don Saladino: Effectively, 100%. So I, I feel once I manipulated for a few picture shoots years in the past, like 2013, 2014, and I did like water manipulation, carb manipulation, I simply keep in mind how shitty I felt these few instances I did it. It was a real contest prep, and I made it by. I used to be disciplined, went to the shoot date, and felt like I seemed nice.
Don Saladino: That, compared to me doing what I discuss with as extra of a more healthy minimize—um, I didn’t get that a lot leaner. I used to be virtually like, I’ll present you footage and also you’re like, wow, that’s comparable. Like, that’s the one to chop water for, and that is the one that you just didn’t. And I used to be like, yeah. I simply discovered as a result of all 12 months lengthy, I’m consuming like a better stage of energy and my macros, I’m by no means actually going low carb, I’m by no means going low [00:58:00] fats, however I’m consuming a high-quality food regimen that’s excessive fiber, nutrient-dense, you understand.
Don Saladino: I’m turning round, getting, if I’m getting 500–600 grams of carbs in a day with 250 to 275 grams of protein, say 130 grams of fats, when my physique’s used to processing that and working by that, the second I’ve to arrange for a canopy, if I drop that 500 to 300, hold the protein across the similar and drop the fat from, say, 130 to 90, that’s an enormous deficit, however my energy are nonetheless fairly excessive.
Don Saladino: So, what I discovered with my physique is that, you understand, I’d lose 5, 6, 7 kilos in every week. After which after that, for the following 3, 4 weeks, I’d lose like a pound, a pound and a half. However daily I’m waking up and I’m like, Oh my God, I’ve bought a brand new vein coming down from my neck to my chest, and my arms are extra vascular. Then out of nowhere, like every week or two in, I’m beginning to see veins come by my abdominals.
Don Saladino: It’s simply from the truth that I feel I’m [00:59:00] used to processing a excessive quantity of energy. After which all of a sudden, once I go right into a deficit, that is like most individuals’s surpluses. So my metabolism’s used to being fairly environment friendly. So I feel that’s one thing that’s labored actually, very well for me.
Don Saladino: Additionally, one other factor—I don’t change coaching within the sense of why individuals get within the mindset like, oh, I bought to sweat, I bought to start out doing circuit work, or like. I’m like, no, no, in no way. I’m truly like, I take actually extra of a power-building strategy in most of my coaching. Like, I find it irresistible all year long.
Don Saladino: More often than not. And I’m not saying I don’t work on work capability or I don’t change coaching up. However more often than not, like, bench, squat, deadlift. Pull-off overhead urgent. These are lifts I wish to ensure that are fairly sturdy, after which every thing else I can get the unilateral work, et cetera. However these, these, you understand, that massive three—bench, squat, deadlift.
Don Saladino: Yeah, I’m focusing extra on energy and power there, and that is permitting me to remain considerably dense. After which I really feel like every thing else I’m going into is extra like [01:00:00] a hypertrophy strategy. So once I’m, you understand, every week or two out from a canopy, I’m pulling 500 off the ground. Like, I’m squatting a heavy weight, like I’m hitting fives and threes, and I’m doing this stuff that I really feel like permit my muscle to remain laborious and dense. The place I’m somebody that every thing goes to excessive repetitions.
Don Saladino: Effectively, for every week or two, I’m going to really feel sore. I’m going to get some nasty pumps. I’m going to really feel nice. However then after that, I’m going to start out feeling like I’m getting a little bit bit weaker and I’m truly going to really feel like my physique begins getting flat. In order that’s an strategy that, you understand, I’ve taken for some time. Sustaining that muscle power and that density for me is one thing that I feel has allowed me to have fairly good physique composition all year long.
Don Saladino: So once I determine to start out prepping for one thing, or I get a name to prep for one thing, it’s not like, you understand, Oh, aren’t you working round? And it’s like, all proper, properly, yeah, like. By doing extra cardio. Positive. I’m doing extra steady-state cardio. Effectively, why aren’t you doing high-intensity coaching? Effectively, it’d be a little bit too taxing for the quantity I’ve to coach to arrange for this, proper?
Don Saladino: Regular-state cardio. The straightforward factor about it, as you understand, is we may simply do loads of it. Proper. And, um, [01:01:00] precisely. Nevertheless it’s like individuals wish to like sort of shit on it a bunch and be like, properly, you understand, research present that top, excessive, excessive depth. Sure. There’s a spot for that. There’s a spot for this. So I simply assume individuals must be well-rounded.
Don Saladino: And I—once more, that teaching ingredient of recognizing what the person wants, I feel, is what makes coach coach.
Mike Matthews: Oh, truly, can I, can I, can I ask—so that you talked about sauna and chilly plunge, are you able to speak a little bit bit about these issues and perhaps some other of those different interventions that—I imply, a few of them are, so purple gentle is sort of stylish proper now.
Mike Matthews: And I’m not saying it’s a nasty factor. I’m simply saying that.
Don Saladino: I really like purple lights. I’ve a purple gentle mattress being delivered to me in like two or three weeks. Um, so yeah, I’ve bought a revived purple gentle mattress coming to me. So I’m actually as a result of I’ve dedicated to a purple gentle masks, and I’ve a stand-up lamp downstairs.
Don Saladino: However, um, I simply wish to get a little bit bit extra educated on it as a result of it’s a little bit bit extra, uh, these bulbs are gonna be much more [01:02:00] stronger, and getting on a constant routine the place I’m truly laying down and my entire physique can get, uh, uncovered to purple gentle, back and front. Um, it’s fascinating. Plunging I take advantage of, I truly really feel nice from plunging.Don Saladino: I, I’ll use it both typically once I get up. Very first thing I’ll apply it to days off. Uh, I really feel nice doing it. I take advantage of, uh, it’s referred to as a Renew. Uh, it’s been my favourite plunge and I’ve, uh, I’ve, uh, an infrared sauna that I’ve exterior after which I’ve one which’s inside.
Mike Matthews: And you like the infrared over a conventional?
Don Saladino: I’ve at all times, I’ve at all times appreciated it. I don’t, I don’t like going into these actually sizzling 180, 190 diploma saunas. The place you simply really feel such as you’re going to die. Like I like being within the sauna at 140, you understand, anyplace from 130 to 150 levels. I’ll do emails. I’ll be sitting there sweating like a pig, having a dialog with my coaching buddy.
Don Saladino: We’ll spend 20, half-hour there. We’ll soar on the plunge on an off day for 3 [01:03:00] minutes and also you simply really feel nice. So I really feel like that’s enhanced my restoration a bit. I don’t assume that there’s any profit if it’s ever, as a result of now you’re listening to, properly, it’s like, I’ve by no means, I’ve been, I’ve been chilly plunging for 25 years.
Don Saladino: I don’t know if I’ve ever, you understand, I’ve chilly plunged after exercises. I’ve had a chilly on days off. I actually don’t chilly plunge after exercises. I could also be doing it on off days, however I’ve by no means had, I’ve by no means seen a draw back to it. So, um, after which on high of that, what else do I take advantage of? I’ll use it. I actually like this new unit referred to as, uh, Firefly, which is these. I don’t wish to describe it as Normatecs, however they’re virtually like these little sticky bands.
Don Saladino: That offers you off impulses that assist scale back circulation all through the physique. So you would throw them in your knees, it’s bought a plus-minus button. It’s bought a 30-hour lifespan. They’re tremendous cheap. I’ll give them to Pete. Like my next-door neighbor’s bought cerebral palsy. He’s in a [01:04:00] wheelchair.
Don Saladino: So we’ll get him a pair, proper? Um, a buddy of mine, who’s had some knee surgical procedures that, um, you understand, he’s at all times searching for extra circulation. He’s carrying them. My uncle virtually had his leg amputated due to most cancers and one in every of his legs isn’t working properly anymore. We’ll throw that on him. And he’s already observed drastic enchancment in how his physique’s feeling and truly bringing some motion again into his toes.
Don Saladino: So I feel there are some actually nice issues on the market. I simply, once more, it’s the, for somebody like my uncle or Christian, who’s my neighbor subsequent door, that’s fairly extreme, proper? Like these issues that we’re speaking about, the way it’s serving to them out, fairly extreme. Somebody like myself, I feel it’s like throwing a cherry on high of the whipped cream, which is on the ice cream. Like that is,
Mike Matthews: It’s most likely in the identical class of dietary supplements. Like they’re supplemental by definition.
Don Saladino: Thanks. Completely stated. That’s precisely what I simply stated. Folks begin placing a lot worth into this stuff and so they’re like, do one thing laborious daily. And I’m like, properly, it’s not likely laborious.
Don Saladino: I used to be doing this stuff actually laborious. I feel doing what’s laborious, [01:05:00] I feel laborious is like waking up once you’re drained and persevering with to do your routine that you just don’t wish to do.
Mike Matthews: It wasn’t, it wasn’t laborious when, when, uh, we had been 20. Sleep? What was sleep? It didn’t even matter, nevertheless it’s completely different now, at the very least for me, like 5 hours does
Don Saladino: Not feeling the identical anymore.
Don Saladino: It doesn’t. However yeah, I feel if individuals wish to take note of doing the laborious issues, be constant along with your vitamin, get to mattress on time each evening, attempt to, you understand, eradicate or restrict alcohol, get excessive protein. Like these, these will not be attractive issues, however they’re positively going to pay the most important dividends.
Mike Matthews: Have you ever seemed into the beginner machine? N E U?
Don Saladino: Oh yeah. I’ve heard of this.
Mike Matthews: Um,
Don Saladino: I don’t
Mike Matthews: Describe it to me once more. I really feel like I’ve used it.
Mike Matthews: So it’s a DC, so it’s a direct present STEM. It’s fairly costly. I don’t know a lot about
Don Saladino: It. Oh, is it, it’s shockwave remedy?
Mike Matthews: Uh, that’s potential that it may be used. Yeah, that is perhaps categorized that method. Nonetheless, I do know, so I’ve been on it. I don’t have one. I’ve been on it earlier than. And so [01:06:00] it’s direct present STEM and it’s a high-end direct present STEM with rehab settings. After which additionally with, like, coaching hypertrophy settings the place you may, you may, uh, closely stimulate goal muscle teams, uh, and obtain most contraction.
Mike Matthews: It’s, it’s intense. And I’ve seen some bodybuilders now catching on to this. It appears fascinating. I haven’t, I haven’t messed round with it a lot as a result of I don’t have one. I simply had entry to at least one by any person I do know.
Don Saladino: There’s a bodybuilder at, uh, Max Charles. That’s who it’s. Max Charles. Um, he’s a four-time Olympian.
Don Saladino: Um, he trains at Beth Francis Powerhouse Fitness center. And this man for the final, no joke, it must be seven, eight years, has been strolling across the fitness center, pushing a cart with this machine. Actually, like he brings, he actually has a man he’s hooked as much as these, like, electrodes and he’s pushing in a machine. He’s bought one other, [01:07:00] one other man following him, I feel, to love to help with him. And, uh, it’s, it’s fascinating.
Don Saladino: So sure, I, I’ve seen this, I simply,
Mike Matthews: All proper. Final query for beer wandering dietary supplements. Do you are taking any dietary supplements?
Don Saladino: I do. Creatine monohydrate. I imply, I’ve been taking that for most likely near 30 years now. Um, I take magnesium. I take that earlier than mattress. I take fish oils. Um, I additionally take vitamin D.
Don Saladino: Typically I’ll take amino acids if my protein is perhaps low that day or if I’m weight-reduction plan. I take a terrific sleep bundle proper now, um, from a brand new firm that’s about to launch referred to as Spoken. Um, they gave me entry to it. I find it irresistible as a result of it’s bought magnesium, it’s bought L-theanine, it’s bought inositol, it’s bought glycine, all the great sleep, uh, sleep aids, um, L-glutamine, and you understand, I’ll take a protein complement and I gotta take a protein powder.
Don Saladino: Nevertheless it’s been a lot, it’s so humorous, all of the, all of the [01:08:00] literature proper now that persons are placing on the market like, is protein powder good at making you fats? And I’m similar to, Oh my God, is {that a}, I truly haven’t seen that.
Mike Matthews: That’s—yeah, truly Dr. Gabrielle Lyon simply needed to handle it as a result of individuals had been like, protein, I heard protein powders make you fats.
Don Saladino: Proper. We stated that I don’t, did you hear that? Like, supposedly he’s like suing Grant Cardone. This simply popped up the opposite day. I used to be laughing.
Mike Matthews: I, I, I noticed that, uh, I don’t know the way I got here throughout her. Any individual instructed me, sure, I’ve heard that. I don’t know the main points. I assume he bought kicked out after which they bought mad at one another.
Mike Matthews: I don’t know. Truly, I don’t know the main points. I’m no fan of Brekka although, he’s, he’s a quack to finish all quackery, so. Uh, my, my opinion, caveat, no matter.
Mike Matthews: No, no, no, it’s nice, I imply, he’s not, um. I’ve seen, I’ve simply seen him say a lot nonsense that what else am I speculated to, what else am I speculated to conclude?
Mike Matthews: If you wish to play physician, go turn into a health care provider. So, I don’t know.
Don Saladino: I feel loads of these guys get a bit fluffy.
Mike Matthews: Effectively, it’s biohacking. That’s the [01:09:00] purple flag. Anybody who calls themselves a biohacker, purple flag.
Don Saladino: However who was it? Dave Asprey was speaking about, um, how, um, don’t eat, don’t eat oats. It, um, it, it’ll make you fats.
Don Saladino: Yeah. I, I, I scream ice cream is more healthy for you than oatmeal. And I’m like, that’s simply irresponsible. Like, how will you be that silly? And, um, the one man I bought a kick out of lately although, trigger I talked out of this occasion referred to as pneumonia at West Palm, that man, Brian Johnson, the one attempting to stay to be like, no matter he’s like, you understand what?
Mike Matthews: Form of appears so—he appears sort of like a lizard already or one thing or perhaps a vampire. He appears like a, like a, like a vampire.
Don Saladino: He appears flat out kooky. I completely get it, however he will get it too. And he’s like, pay attention, I’m a kook. You flat out stated it. And folks had been like, what I didn’t respect. Everybody lives the life that they wish to stay, hopefully, proper?
Don Saladino: Like, in case you have the flexibility to stay the best way you wish to stay, that’s, that to me is like true wealth. Yeah, and spend your cash. It’s your cash. Do no matter you [01:10:00] need. Precisely. However like, individuals had been coming at him, like, the ladies in The View had been like, have a life. I’m like, sort of pondering to myself, I felt dangerous for him.
Don Saladino: I’m like, that is the life he desires to stay. That is what he’s doing. He appears actually glad. And, uh, no matter. However he at the very least took possession over the truth that what he does is a bit bizarre and unusual. And loads of medical doctors had been approaching. They’re like, this isn’t going to be so, um, backed proof and this isn’t science and this.
Don Saladino: He’s similar to, pay attention, I simply wish to see what I can do with the human physique. And for me, I’ve the cash, I’ve the sources. That is one thing that I take pleasure in doing and I’m going to make the most of it. When he sort of put it that method, I used to be like, how do you argue with that? Like…
Mike Matthews: Depart the man alone.
Don Saladino: Yeah.
Mike Matthews: I imply, from what I’ve seen from him, uh, it looks like—I don’t pay an excessive amount of consideration, however from what I’ve seen—a good quantity of it’s primarily based on present literature after which a good quantity of it’s speculative, nevertheless it’s not absurd.
Mike Matthews: It’s primarily based on mechanics that may be defined that at the very least align with how the human physique works. And sure, it’s speculative the place we don’t know if this actually does [01:11:00] one thing or not. And, uh, as long as such protocols are introduced that method, I don’t assume there’s something mistaken with that per se. And even in case you had been to say like, I truly don’t advocate that I’m doing it as a result of that is sort of my factor.
Mike Matthews: I don’t advocate that everybody does it as a result of I don’t know, it could truly be dangerous for me. Some of these things we’ll see.
Don Saladino: Yeah, yeah, it’s a, it’s a little bit, I imply, the entire business has turn into a little bit a lot of the biohackers. Most of them to me ought to simply sort of go away. And that sounds fairly horrible for me to say, however I don’t know.
Don Saladino: You’ve bought actually clever medical doctors on the market. You’ve bought people who find themselves like, you understand, Dr. Gabrielle Lyon, uh, Dr. Dwayne Jackson, who’s sort of extra of an unknown and he’s one in every of Prescript’s medical doctors. And even like listening to Huberman the opposite day—I had dinner with him, like a brilliant good man, working on the Chilly Spring Labs proper over right here.
Don Saladino: Like, individuals hate him as a result of he’s simply discovered a option to turn into actually profitable. And he’s within the media a little bit bit. The man’s tremendous good. So it’s like, these are the individuals I’d fairly hearken to. These individuals. Like, why am I, why am I going to go hearken to a biohacker who’s simply [01:12:00] sort of, you understand, strolling round with blue gentle blockers all day?
Don Saladino: I simply, I feel—and the rationale why it sounds a little bit abrasive, how I’m placing it, it’s simply, I feel they turn into a bit irresponsible. Their conduct turns into irresponsible after they’re coming in with this one-size-fits-all strategy or after they’re turning round to individuals, somebody within the Midwest proper now who’s been consuming Egg McMuffins each morning.
Don Saladino: And all of a sudden they’re like, you understand what? I bought immediate oats, Quaker immediate oats, and it’s, um, it’s cinnamon taste and it’s bought some fiber in it. And my physician’s telling me that is higher for me than the Egg McMuffin. What’s higher for you? Be trustworthy with what the fuck’s higher for you.
Don Saladino: However now you’re telling this one who’s attempting to make a little bit little bit of an effort. You’re discouraging them by saying, properly, you’re higher off consuming ice cream as a result of the oats are the worst factor so that you can eat. That’s irresponsible. Teaching is about discovering the extent an individual’s at. And you understand what? Taking a minimalistic strategy typically to provide them a little bit bit extra.
Don Saladino: You’re not at all times going to have the ability to flip round.
Mike Matthews: Simply that’s, that’s truly all that works with most individuals. You might have the exception, however with most individuals.
Don Saladino: Proper. Each every now and then, there’s this diamond within the tough. There’s this sort An individual the place you’re like, right here, see you in three months, and so they come again, and so they’re like, look, and also you’re like, holy shit.
Don Saladino: Like, it was that simple. It’s not the truth, however these persons are getting irresponsible of their conduct and the, and the knowledge they’re giving. It’s actually messing individuals up, it’s actually complicated them, and it’s maintaining them away from with the ability to take the suitable steps. And, um, so, in order that’s, that’s my solely reservation with a number of the biohackers is after they.
Mike Matthews: It’s additionally unethical. A whole lot of the claims which might be made are simply false. So we’re speaking about primarily mendacity for a residing.
Don Saladino: It’s mendacity.
Mike Matthews: Appropriate. Mendacity for a residing, like that’s principally what I do. I lie for a residing.
Don Saladino: Principally, it’s simply turning round saying, I’m going to say this to, uh, as could possibly be, generate profits. That’s it.
Mike Matthews: Yeah, generate profits. Finally, it’s simply to generate profits. Effectively, uh, we’ve gone on one other virtually 20 minutes now. So, uh, once more, I respect the time. Why don’t we wrap up shortly, with the place individuals can discover you, discover your work. If [01:14:00] there’s something specifically that you really want them to find out about.
Don Saladino: DonSaladino.com is my web site, sort of spells every thing on the market. Uh, host packages, challenges, do consulting. I’ve bought a brand new podcast launching with the Gaines household, Joanna and Chip Gaines from Magnolia this 12 months. I’m writing a guide. I simply signed a take care of Countryman Press. So I’ve rolled that out. Ryan Reynolds is writing the foreword.
Don Saladino: Received some nice initiatives this 12 months. I’m actually enthusiastic about it. If anybody has any questions, shoot me a DM. Mike, thanks for having me on. It was a pleasure. Hope to fulfill you in individual.
Mike Matthews: Completely. Thanks.
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